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guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: nbc sports -- >> dana: nbc sportscaster bob costas got in trouble for politicizing the murder-suicide by jovan belcher. bill o'reilly just sat down with costas moments ago to talk about the controversy. we at "the five" have the first clip. you will hear that in a moment. first, a 9/11 call has just been released in the case. this is belcher's mother cheryl shepard pleading for help after the mother of her granddaughter was shot by her own son. listen. >> dana: his mom obviously a strong woman, kimberly. some people asked today is it the case of the law that you have to release a 9/1 9/11 dash 911 tape like this or do they keep them private? >> andrea: if a request is made, subpoena to the tape and get reporting they are allowed to because it's part of the public record. once you do the proper steps you can get it. certain case, judge or prosecutor is pending, which we don't have here, because everybody is deceased that was involved in it. they can block it and say it's in the best i
stormed the state cap cal. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. home of the legendary grand prix circuit. the perfect place to bring the all-new cadillac ats to test the 2.0-liter turbo engine. [ engine revs ] ♪ [ derek ] 272 horsepower. the lightest in its class. the cadillac ats outmatches the bmw 3 series. i cannot believe i have ended the day not scraping some red paint off on these barriers. ♪ [ male announcer ] the all-new cadillac ats. >>> michigan. it's the corner stone of the american labor movement, but could be in for the biggest shake up in its history. despite rallies of union workers in the state capital, michigan lawmakers are on the verge of passing a right to work law. experts
? what's out? what's in in the republican party that just took a licking? bob shrum is a democratic strategist and columnist at the daily beast, and john brabender ran rick santorum's presidential campaign. i expect you gentleman to play fair and aim directly below the belt. just kidding, bob. i want to ask you as a liberal, a progressive, looking across at the right you see jim demint, a guy the late tim russert once said i can't believe jim demint is a senator. he is the leader, the ramrod of all those right wing challenges. he put up ron johnson to beat mitch mcconnell because he's too liberal. he's leaving, quitting his senate seat, giving it up, to run the heritage foundation. we have other stuff coming up, but let's start with that. >> first of all, he's going to make a lot more money. ed fuelner, who is leaving, makes $1 million a year. demint has a net worth of $140,000. secondly, the leadership has tried to rein him in. they've said, you can't go out and go after these conservative republicans with really conservative republicans in primaries because you're setting us up to
. kim, first to you. >> a miss to bob costas who used kansas city linebacker jovan belcher and used the murder of his girlfriend to go on rant on costas the usual nonsense about gun violence, the fact that he said it at all. americans are hit over the head with political fights, tax cliffs, spending, and we turn to football precisely for escape and we do not have to hear anybody's political opinions, stick to sports. >> lance armstrong was stripped of 7 tour de france titles this fall and the only american to have won cycling's biggest race, started a group called change cycling now and pushing to take over the international cycling federation, he won fair and clean in the '80s and dramatically and wants it change cycling. if anyone can do it and change the culture of doping in sports, it can be someone like greg lamond. >> paul: james. >> a hit to michigan governor rick snyder he would sign right to work legislation soon on his desk. anyone in in america should be able to choose to support a union and choose not to. >> that's big news, potentially for economically in michigan, and
? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> we love hearing from our viewers on twitter and facebook. many of you are responding to an article on our blog about college students who have barricaded themselves on plans to charge tuition for the first time. donna says, it's free in other countries. if the student qualifies, no reason why there should not be the same opportunity here. peggy said she would much rather pay tuition than wars. wouldn't mind paying taxes if that happened. and marjorie believes the more educated people we have, the better the country. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. >>> republicans vote down a treaty to protect the disabled despite support for high profile republicans like bob dole. find out why. [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. our unique brush head cleans in three directions with up to 50% more brush movements than leading sonic technology. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. plays a key role
republicans like bob dole. find out why. >>> we are back. with beano me, or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and there'll be no gas. >>> we are back. the white house's website was created to provide an online platform for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of issuing a response if a petition gathering 25,000 signatures in 30 days has caught the attention of the internet trolls. it was the forum used by over 100,000 texans to secede from the united states, which resulted in another petition in -- to withdraw. anything can happen. you can see where this is going. but there's one petition on the site that we here at "the ed show" can certainly get behind. it's a substantial stimulus project that would create millions of jobs, boost america's steel industry, got to love that, expand our space prog
has a show called "dangerous brands." we're back in a moment. not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem, that doesn't require routine blood monitoring. like warfarin, xarelto® is proven effective to reduce the risk of an afib-related stroke. there is limited data on how these drugs compare when warfarin is well managed. no routine blood monitoring means bob can spend his extra time however he likes. new zealand! xarelto® is just one pill a day, taken with the evening meal. and with no dietary restrictions, bob can eat the healthy foods he likes. do not stop taking xarelto® rivaroxaban without talking to the doct
the fiscal cliff. this included chris van hollen. also, senators mark warner and bob corker, a republican from tennessee. this is one hour. >> good morning. i'm the head of bloomberg government. thank you for joining us today, and thank you to deloitte for partnering with us in this event. when we launched bloomberg government just about two years ago, we had the aspiration of creating a one-stop shop, with data, tools, news, and analysis to help government affairs and government sales professionals make better and faster decisions. we went a long way toward achieving that aspiration. a big part of it is conversations on the important issues that face our nation today, particularly at the intersection of business and government. today's discussion on the fiscal cliff clearly meets that. we are honored to have such a thoughtful panel. senator mark warner, senator bob corker, congressman chris van hollen, governor tim pawlenty, who is currently president and ceo of the financial services roundtable. moderating our discussion today is al hunt. we always love having al over here. he really pu
with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem, that doesn't require routine blood monitoring. like warfarin, xarelto® is proven effective to reduce the risk of an afib-related stroke. there is limited data on how these drugs compare when warfarin is well managed. no routine blood monitoring means bob can spend his extra time however he likes. new zealand! xarelto® is just one pill a day, taken with the evening meal. and with no dietary restrictions, bob can eat the healthy foods he likes. do not stop taking xarelto® rivaroxaban without talking to the doctor who prescribes it for y
a treaty to protect the disabled despite support for high profile republicans like bob dole. find out why. a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. (announcer) when subaru owners look in the mirror, they see more than themselves. so we celebrate our year-end with the "share the love" event. get a great deal on a new subaru and 250 dollars goes to your choice of five charities. by the end of this, our fifth year, our total can reach almost 25 million dollars. it's a nice reflection on us all. now through january 2nd. >>> we are back. the white house's website was created to provide an online platform for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of i
. >> reporter: for more on the fiscal cliff let's bring in bob sue sack, managing editor of the hill. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. >> reporter: he says this is a slow walk for our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff, and if the president doesn't like the republican's plan he has an obligation to send them one that can pass both houses of congress as quickly as possible. what is the middle ground here? >> well, they are nowhere near the middle ground. a lot of posturing going on. i think you'll see that for at least another week or two. the sticking point is, it's tax rates, and speaker john boehner was asked a question of whether he could be flexible on that. he really didn't indicate he was going to do that. democrats say fresh off their election win he must do that. maybe it's not 250,000, maybe it's higher where they protect sphaupl businesses between 250,000 or 750,000 and a million. there has to be some type of compromise. if republicans are going to go for tax rate increases they'll have to get significant returns as far as the entitlement reforms. that is the
with the most on the line one might argue in this battle uaw president bob king joining us from lansing. welcome back inside "the war room". >> thank you jennifer. good to be with you. >> you were one of the ones who was locked out of the capitol today. has that ever happened to you before? >> no. it hasn't. pretty unbelievable. i don't know it's happened in michigan before. >> if everybody was locked out today and the court ruled the building has to be opened will people be coming back on tuesday for the completion of this act? >> oh, yeah. there will be a big turnout of working people working families on tuesday. >> tell people what this whether mean for the uaw if this passes >> it's more what it means for the citizens of michigan right to work states have lower wages, great he were income disparity t funding for public education. all of these negatives for the citizens of michigan that's what right to work brings to a state. it does not bring economic prosperity. i have heard the governor and some others say, well indians is getting a lot of jobs. that
? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> who is black in america? it's a provocative question and soledad o'brien explores it in a special coming up at the top of the hour. >> in our conversations it seems like there are black people who are saying you're not black. >> right. >> and certainly that's been my experience. >> well, i think it's not at all surprising that when a community has been targeted for oppression for hundreds of years, a lot of the internalization of that oppression will happen. if you have an entire group of folks, in this case people of african descent, who were told the darker you are, the worse you are, that the lighter you are, the better you are, is that going to affect the mentality of black people themselves and cause at least in some cases certain folks in that community to perhaps turn against others in the community or to sort of play this game of, well, you're not really in the club? of course. but i think it's important that we never forget where that comes from. colorism within the black community was not created by bl
it is and what it means? we hit the streets. >> steve: indeed, and bob costas and his no spin zone to defend his half time gun control rant. what did he say and what does former nfl player think? he will join us live to react this hour. "fox & friends" hour two for thursday starts right now. >> gretchen: i thought the same thing that scarlet johansson was in times square answering ainsley's question. i thought what, a lucky day for steve and brian that yesterday they would have petra and today scarlet. >> brian: and the day before, victoria secret models. >> gretchen: what a week! >> steve: one of the young people when did respond said fiscal cliff, that sounds like something i probably studied in school. no. this is new. this is something that they've just fresh baked up for us. >> brian: this generation made it up! >> gretchen: they'll be paying for it. >> steve: for a long, long time. our children and children's children, consider the amount of dent this president has run up. this could be good news. the president of the united states did speak with speaker boehner yesterday on the phone. we
-- >> bob dole. >> and john mccain today made a plea for bob dole who is in walter reed he wants to see this great moment, a worldwide standard, it would be good for business, but as you pointed out on the daily rundown today, the chamber of commerce supports this, selling wheelchairs -- >> around the world. >> and here, it's stalemate. it needs two-thirds, more than 60. this is a treaty. because it has u.n. attached to it -- >> going to say it's brand, it's about brand. >> at that moment with mccain and john kerry because of foreign relations issue and this is the way mccain sort of gigged john kerry and kerry teased him back. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. >> and there was a lot of joking after that. a lot of laughing. >> we should have showed. >> two of them have been close. people forget that the vietnam caucus, as strained as things have gotten in washington. >> they worked hard on that. >> what remains of it. >> with kerry and jack reed and the guys that are left, they're all -- they all look out for each other. >> where do you think
in the theater in aurora they would have been able to take down this nut job. >> bill: bob costas in the middle of a gun controversy. he will be here tonight. and we'll get to the bottom of this very intense debate. >> our problem with president obama isn't that he is a bad person. our problem is that he is a bad president. [cheers] >> bill: factor exclusive senator marco rubio in his first post election interview. he is now emerging as one of the leaders of the republic party. also tonight, dennis miller on paying higher taxes. and charlie brown kicked to the cush -- curb in arkansas by a pastor. >> everything i do turns into a disaster. >> oh, good grief. >> bill: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. no talking points memo this evening because we have two very important interviews to conduct here. in just a few moments senator marco rubio in first post election chat and boy do i have some questions for him. first the lead story, bob costas as we reported last night the nbc sportscaster ha
#: 1-800-345-2550 well, if itmr. margin?margin. don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. >>> have you noticed that the experts may be pessimistic worrying about the fiscal cliff, but the global stock market may be on a tear? let's look at some of these numbers. this is great stuff. hong kong is up 19%. this is in the past year. german dax up 25%. the french cac up 11%. thailand up 43%. japan up 6%. year to date, the usa is up over 12%. that ain't bad. let's bring in our pal, jim iuor iuorio. you know, jim, it's turning out to be a very good year and it's turning out to be a very good year on a global basis. >> no doubt about it. but let's break it down. japan's stock market has rallied huge because of promi
] to learn more about the cold truth well, if itmr. margin?margin. don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. >>> and we are back. twitter is erupting tonight over breaking news out of michigan where republicans in the state have passed a right to work law. kevin tweets, "michigan must be crazy. right to work legislation quickly brings lower wages. aren't they suffering enough?" and ellen vollbrecht says "the name right to work is one of the biggest cons. it's not right to work. it's the right to be fired for any reason whether right or wrong." keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. >>> coming up, apple ceo tim cook announces plans to produce some of their computers right here i
>> dana: three one more things. >> greg: you had three more. three good things. >> bob: number one. >> greg: number one. speaking of number one, me -- no. catch me on greta tonight. i'm on her first block of the show. "red eye" we have ann coulter and gavin mckinnon on. >> bob: can you do something that is not self-promoting? >> greg: no. storm the first day of hanukkah. celebrate a happy holiday. that is it for us. have a great weekend, everyone. >> john: another weekend no, deal on the fiscal cliff. how close one is depends on whom you believe. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> john: good evening. i'm john roberts in for bret baier this evening. deadlock, gridlock, stalemate, whatever you call it. most people in washington seem to think we are there. we have just four more weekends to go before america goes over the most talked about piece ovate i of real estn the world, the fiscal cliff. ed henry tells us not everyone is pessimistic. >> reporter: literally snapping his fingers, vice president joe biden today suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid th
the vote we had a wonderful ceremony in the dirksen building honoring bob dole. you see, yesterday was the international disability rights day. international disability rights day yesterday. so they wanted to honor bob dole for all he'd done, and it was a wonderful event, wonderful. i saw people over there honoring bob dole for all the work he he'd done on disability rights who voted against the bill today. i saw them, i thought wait a minute, since they're going to honor all the work bob dole had done on disability and bob dole was one of the strongest supporters of the crpd as it's called, came over here today in his wheelchair with his wife, former senator elizabeth dole. and yet -- and yet people voted against it. i don't get it. veterans. mr. president, there was a young veteran sitting in the gallery today and i met him yesterday the first time, senator kerry spoke at length about him, his name is dan brzezinski and i'm going to ask consent to put his op-ed in the record at the conclusion of my speech. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. harkin: as i also want to pu
's not even bob dole's treaty, although he certainly is a person who has been deeply involved. the vote on the treaty is the right thing to do on its merits. i think that it's important to note that every major veterans' group -- madam president, i ask that the list of the veterans' groups in support be included in the record at this time. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: i've not forgotten that 36 republicans signed a letter opposing consideration of any treaty during the lame duck, but there's no reason why we shouldn't have a vote on this. the letter says that they would oppose consideration, but we did have the motion to proceed. some may be worried about passing a treaty in a lame-duck session. the argument has no basis in the constitution or the senate practice. since the 1970's alone the senate has approved treaties during lame-duck sessions a total of 19 times. there's nothing special or different about lame-duck sessions. i'd like to address a few of the misconceptions about the treaty that i keep hearing. it's true that the treaty establishes a committee,
and maybe next month he'll be right. hi bob, welcome. >> caller: good morning steph and mooks. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: i find it ironic that obama's reelection turned out to be jim demin's waterloo! [♪ circus music ♪] >> stephanie: see what you did there. that was one of those statements that obviously was rooting for the president's failure, but it was -- looking at the actual quote, he said if we are able to stop obama on this it will be a waterloo. we will break him. isn't that what they used to say about slaves. >> i don't think it was on purpose. it's hardball yes. >> stephanie: borderline treasonist sounding. >> yes. >> it could be a dog whistle or a horse whistle in this case. >> stephanie: that's what i mean an animal. exactly, jim. grover norquist saying we need to put a leash on the president. not okay. twenty-nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ very, very excited about that and very proud of that. >>beltway politics from inside the loop. >>we tackle the big issues here in our nation's capital, aro
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, d.c. and when you look at what happened in the senate, with bob dole on the floor, the most honored republican to serve in the senate in a long time, a war hero begging them to confirm that treaty, to ratify that treaty, 38 republicans voted no on some whacked out idea. >> no. that's the danger, governor, of being dismissive. and i think you're right. but the ugliness combined with their powerful moment, they are talking about breaking the president, that's the president's word, i'll break them. and to stand up and see them vote in 2012 against disability with the former standing party asking them, the ugliness of this is unimaginable. >> horrible. >> joan? >> it really was a low moment. and almost unpredictable. every time i think they can't surprise me, they surprise me again, reverend al. so governor rendell is right. it's way too early for us to crow, to say that the fever is broken. this is a sign that jim demint thinks that he's going to strip the betina off the heritage foundation. they are really a talking point tank but now it shows the ideology rather than intellect. jim d
himself on having the facts. >> uaw president bob king blamed the koch brothers for helping ram through this legislation. do you believe that? what role did the koch brothers, if any play in all of this? >> it's hard for me to know. i think there is a lot of big money involved. i see this prosperity america. i think that's their outfit. i see equipment and tents and so on. how much big money is flowing around, i don't know. i think they're all over. ed, you have been on this before. we have to get the big corporate money out of politics. this is disgusting. this is a bastardization of our democracy that is taking place. i tell you, democracy is under attack. we have to get the big corporate money out. it's disgusting to think the koch brothers' long arm and big money can make it happen. if it can happen in michigan, it can happen anywhere. working people are under attack. i believe there will be repercussions. >> in what way? >> i think the governor is making a huge mistake. i believe -- i know '14 is a ways off. but look, this governor did not campaign on this. he said very little abou
policy institute. we have bob packwood from oregon, the former chairman of the senate finance committee. we hope to get your thoughts. the other folks here have been part of the conversation. my only message to the new arrivals, please jump in whenever you see fit. we have about an hour to an hour half.fa i would direct the conversation as best i can. we're talking now about the other very small issue in this debate, and that is tax policy and how best to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal path and incorporate changes in tax policy to get there. the question of revenue, how much, where to get it, the options on the table, and like all your thoughts, they need some ideas. both sides need this to bridge this gap because right now we appear to be a stalemate. i will turn it over to john podesta to get your thoughts. knowing that john has to live, and the center for american progress has come up with ideas, and, john, maybe you would like to weigh in on some of those, and your thoughts on this debate. >> peter, following up on this morning's session, in order that a balanced approach, w
heroic things during that war. and it also has the support of former senate majority leader bob dole, certainly a patriot. senator dole, a disabled veteran from world war ii, who led the fight to pass the treaty, was here yesterday urging republicans to support it. now, mr. president, think about that. robert dole, who was grievously injured in world war ii, spent more than two years in a hospital, he came to this senate floor, and the first speech he gave was on disabilities, and we needed to do something about it. he was here -- he led the fight to pass the treaty, urging republicans to support it. a few republicans greeted him as he was in his wheelchair here. they greeted this 89-year-old war hero, i repeat, patriot, who just last week was in walter reed hospital. then one by one, all but a handful of them voted against the treaty, ensuring its failure. but their professed reasons for opposing it had no basis in fact -- none. most republicans acknowledge that. some use an excuse, well, it is a lame duck. we shouldn't be doing it in a lame duck. i mean, wow ... and there's no just
, bob. we did. got it. sfx- "sounds of african drum and flute" look who's back. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than antelope with night-vision goggles. nice! get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>> moment of geek which begins with a moment of history he. if americans are familiar with the phrase cooper union chances are it's because of this. matthew brady's cooper union of abraham lincoln. he took it on the same day he gave his cooper union address. he was presidential candidate lincoln and it's he believed that speech he gave that night in which he outlined his ideas about slavery, that speech is thought to have helped win lincoln the republican nomination and later the white house. this is the building where lincoln gave that spe
report, seasonaled justments will be a huge factor relative to sandy. >> bob and michelle are here. and my biggest question, if all the companies are pulling the give dends forward, the u.s. government thinks it will be taking in x amount based on what they would normally get for dividends plus whatever the hirer rate is going to be. it will drop substantially, correct? >> you'll get leads and lags in the revenues. a lead into this year, a lag next year. pretty obvious how this works. in terms of tax planning, let hope they know to take account of this. the argument will argue how great this is working and when there's a shortfall, how did that happen. so i hope we don't go that route. but this administration has been very big on these kinds of things, basically distorting what's going on and this current thing about the mandate really bothers me. so i woouldn't -- >> i think the challenge is being forward looking. there's big challenges not just because the challenge in terms of getting all the information, but also if win terms of trying make the budget numbers look good and you
notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out and the leader of them all is this guy who is leaving the senate. how do you see it? >> i think this is the place where the conservative movement and the republican party often times part ways, and jim demint has been the burr in the bonnet of mitch mccandle who people on the left think of this hard right intransigent guy because he said his top priority was making barack obama a one-term president but really mitch mcconnell in a lot of ways like john boehner. an old-time deal maker. people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democrats were screaming bloody murder and thought the president had capitulated? on the far right they thought john boehner and mitch mcconnell had capitulated and lost that negotiation. they want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes in doing is finding candidates to primary other republic
to mr. obama. then you'll have a recession on your hands. if not a recession, bob riech, these high tax policies are going to slow the growth, make it more anemic. >> let me partially agree with both you and casey. i think that the jobs report today was not good. i think that we are still in a jobs recession. we're still in a gravitational pull of the great recession. and i think we ought to have much more on the demand side. i mean i'm not a supply cider. i see that big companies are sitting on $2 trillion of cash. the people at the top are doing very well. the problem is the median wage keeps on going down. most people don't have the cash to keep buying. so the government has got to step in this is the worst time to raise taxes on the middle class. it's the worst time to cut golf spending. then we really are in a recession. that really will bring on a recession. >> do you agree with that, casey. the worst time to cut government spending? >> well most of this spending we've been doing lately is our transfers. and they're paying people for being poor. paying people for not working. i'm
just don't back the governor up. this is a governor that prides himself on having the facts. >> bob king blamed the koch brothers for helping ram through this legislation. what roeld role did they play in any of this? >> there's a lot of big money involved. i see this prosperity america. that's their outfit. i see equipment and so on. i don't know how much money is flowing around. i think they are all over. you have been on this before. we have to get the big corporate money out of politics. this is disgusting. i tell you democracy is under attack. we have to get the big corporate money out. it's disgusting to think the koch brothers money can make it happen. working people are under attack. i believe there will be repercussions. >> in what way? >> the governor is making a huge mistake. i know 14 is a ways off, but this governor, as you said, did not campaign on this. he said little about anything he would do. but he said this wasn't on his agenda. but now suddenly it is. i wonder why? i wonder what changed? so i think that there will be repercussi repercussions. i hope he won't be
? >> it was exactly, bob costas said. i think he actually said on this network, that guns always make situations more dangerous and saying things like that is just factually incorrect. and there are 30,000 people possibly every year killed with a firearm and exactly like you said, mike, 2 1/2 million times a year, people use the the guns to prevent crime. so the reason is that firearms deterrent and we've seen the lowest crime rate in the country now, and gun ownership at the highest rate. 47% of american households report to have a gun and admit it and let the polesters know: accidental firearm mistakes are at their lowest in the history of this country. bob costas and the anti-gun people are spouting off incorrect things and you know-- >> and i've heard quite a few people say after his remarks, if belcher's girlfriend had a gun maybe she wouldn't be dead. good to see you. >> thanks, mike, thank you. >> mike: after the break here, then, 90-year-old statue has been hailed as a priceless piece of public art and now it may be moved because feminist groups say it may be offensive. that guy is standing
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